01 September 2009

Review!! Brr trucks, BW 09 decks, FF Brr wheels


Hello World! I've got some lovely new products up for review today, first being the new Blackriver-ramps trucks.
First things first, I am a very big supporter of Blackriver, but I am in no way bias, that being said, all of the people reading this who have a bug up their ass about Blackriver might want to pay attention, as you could learn something.
I would like to start off with packaging.


As you can see, the packaging is very nice, Blackriver has even gone so far as to give the trucks the "red carpet treatment".
The trucks are housed in a nice cardboard box, with a red felt covered plastic insert, so your trucks are not bouncing around all over the place, it also prevents them from getting damaged during shipping.
When you open the package, taped to the back of the plastic insert you will find one of these.

The Blackriver tool. It is by far the best tool I have used. It has a nice deep socket to keep the nuts from falling out, it's big enough so you can have a nice grip on it, unlike the tiny Tech Deck tools. It also has a hole drilled so you can attach it to any type of keychain or necklace. Most are engraved with the Blackriver logo, I have come across a couple that are not, but you are not buying it for the logo are you!
Onto the trucks.
I have had the opportunity to use these trucks in three different stages. The first time when the Blackriver team was in the USA for Rendezvous 6. The trucks at that point were only prototypes, but still very very good. There were a few problems such as the pivot area on the hangar being very brittle and would sometimes snap off, the other problem I found was with the bases, as they were also very brittle and the screw holes would break. The second stage of prototype I used was from after Fast Fingers 12, when Mike brought back a new set. This time the brittle trucks were very strong, it seemed all of the problems from the first batch of prototypes had been worked out, no more broken hangars, no more broken bases. The only thing they seemed to be lacking was a coat of polish, but who cares, raw trucks are sick!
The final product of the trucks has everything, from looks to performance.
The shape of the trucks is very unique and original for fingerboard trucks. I have seen alot of people re-shape stock Tech Deck trucks, in order to create a more realistic truck, with these, that is not needed. The trucks have a very realistic shape, to that of a real skateboard truck.
The bases for the trucks I feel is where the magic is. The pivot system on them is wonderful, no more super tight or super loose trucks. The hanger sits nicely inside the tiny pivot cup, allowing for a nice feel and easy turns. The bushings again are amazing, the traditional one large, one small black bushings between two metal washers has been thrown out of the door, and has been replaced with two tiny white bushings, that look identical to real skateboard bushings, and two very very small washers. The material of the white bushings is very different from that of the black ones found in rip kits, or bought from various other sites in various colors. The bushings retain their shape very well when used with the Brr trucks and optimize the feel of your trucks, whether you like loose or tight. They also work well on normal TD trucks, although the shape will be lost, the performance is still very noticeable. And to top it off the bases are engraved with the Brr logo.



Onto the hangars.
First thing I have heard people complain about is the axels. "Oh they're too short, oh they fall out" and to that I have to say, shut up and read the packaging. It clearly states why the above is the way it is.




Now take a few minutes and read the directions, they are in the package for a reason!
The reason being the axels are so short, is because they are designed for use with a special wheel, which is being made by THREE different companies. There is a Brr edition of the Winkler D-Rex wheel, a Flatface Brr edition of the classic G-6 wheel, and a Substance Brr edition wheel. These wheels are designed so the bearing does not move on the axel. "Why does the bearing move on the axel?" you say. The axels are slightly thicker than TD axels, reason for this, is so you are actually rolling on the bearing, eliminating the need for backless wheels and washers. You can secure the nut onto the axel tightly and not fear it being too tight where the wheel won't roll, and not loose enough so the nut falls off.
The reason for the axel coming out of the hangar is because Brr plans to release a different sized axel so that you CAN use the trucks with any wheel in the future. If your axel does come out, do not worry, simply place it back in the hangar and put your wheels on, then the hangar won't move around, again read the instructions.
The actual shape of the hangar is very nice, it's a nice change from shaped TD hangars or stock ones. It houses the bushings very nicely so they don't loose their shape due to adjusting the tightness of your trucks. One thing I noticed right away, was I had to break in the bushings and pivot area, just like a real skateboard truck, which I think is a pretty cool idea. After you find your peference of tightness, make sure to put a tiny bit of superglue on the kingpin nut so that it doesn't come off(again read the instructions).The metal grinds perfect, making the most rough unwaxed stuff feel smooth.
The trucks are very very nice overall. Granted they are not perfect as with any new item, but there is very little wrong with them, the price might be alittle steep, but they are definitely worth it, like real skateboarding, quality equipment is an investment.
Next up we have Berlinwood 09 graphic decks.
Keep in mind I am only really reviewing the actual graphic and quality of, not the entire deck.

I have had the opportunity to use a few different graphic Berlinwood 09 decks, I have noticed on them that every graphic wears differently, and at a different pace. This particular one I have found is actually quite hard to make the graphic come off. Now I obviously cannot speak for every board with the same graphic, but I can tell you about mine. I used the deck for about 2 weeks just doing normal indoor stuff, on boxes, flatbars, concrete blocks, and to my surprise there was not a single sign of wear. Those who have seen my boards in person know that I am pretty rough on things, but I couldn't make a scratch on good ole Lenny. The marks you see on the board I had to actually go out and rub the graphic off on some rough granite for about two minutes, pressing really hard, and still as you can see, not much damage occurred. Other boards I have seen, the graphic has worn off rather quickly, i.e. the Blackriver-ramps white logo deck. I think the difference has to do with the amount of color on each board. The more colors, the more ink used, making more layers you have to go through to get to the actual wood. I am not sure I am actually a fan of this, because I like the fact the graphic can come off, it is even better when there is a colored ply beneath the graphic, like on some boards I have seen. The graphics are cool, I am not sure the price, but I would definitely pick one up.
I would also like to take a quick moment to go over the packaging for the new Berlinwoods as well. Same deal as with the trucks. The board is housed in a nice cardboard box with a window in the front and plastic sleeve inside so no damage occurs during shipping.



Last, I have the new Brr edition Flatface wheels.

There will be two versions of this wheel in the near future, the ones shaped like these, and ones with the G7.1 shape.
The wheels are made from the D material so they have the nice white color and hardness. The wheels were designed so the bearing doesn't move around while on the truck. They are actually some of the smoother Flatface wheels I have used, I would highly reccomend them even if you weren't using them with the Brr trucks.

This concludes my review, hope it was informative and could clear up any confusion about Blackriver trucks and graphic Berlinwoods.
For the people who just refuse to accept the fact Brr and Bw make quality products, well...you can keep hating, no one really cares what you think anyway!

26 Comments:

Anonymous Harald Schön... said...

wooow!
perfekt review!
nice new articles so far...

September 2, 2009 at 11:17 AM  
Blogger John said...

i agree that was a great review im goint to buy some in a couple months just so they have got all of the hidden errors and kinks out that we don't know about yet then i will be buying some ... they should to start later on brr colour trucks that would be cool

September 2, 2009 at 12:55 PM  
Anonymous Drake said...

Great review Tim. The trucks look beatiful as well as the graphic berlinwoods. I cant wait to pick some up!

September 2, 2009 at 3:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah we know you ride BRR dick lol

September 2, 2009 at 5:36 PM  
Blogger tim alexiel said...

if you don't like it, don't fucking buy them. easy as that. glad you had the balls to show your name too guy.

September 2, 2009 at 7:40 PM  
Anonymous Steven said...

your review convinced me to buy BRR trucks.

September 2, 2009 at 8:34 PM  
Blogger Mike Schneider said...

John, there's no "hidden errors" so feel free to buy a set now!

September 3, 2009 at 3:43 AM  
Blogger kirill-zabaluev said...

this is perfect review!!!
i very like it!!!

September 3, 2009 at 4:43 AM  
Blogger thomas hansen said...

Tim, thanks for the fair review!
Within a few days we at BRR will be ready with an english text about the trucks as well. in the text we will set the focus on what people could make wrong using the trucks. We hope to prevent people from splitting their trucks apart not being able to put the parts together correctly again.
I think you allready did a great job explaining the features of the trucks, so i only have one small things to add:

Instead of using superglue, try to find "nut guard"
Using nut guard you are still able to reajust the nuts. Superglue on the other side might make this impossible.

September 3, 2009 at 6:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"For the people who just refuse to accept the fact Brr and Bw make quality products, well...you can keep hating, no one really cares what you think anyway!"

You are full of shit their products are decent but highly flawed for the prices they charge.

September 3, 2009 at 11:23 AM  
Blogger tim alexiel said...

again, don't like, don't buy it. also glad you could post your name.

September 3, 2009 at 3:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

when Ytrucks come out no one will buy this overpriced shit.

September 3, 2009 at 5:43 PM  
Blogger tim alexiel said...

aren't you full of yourself

September 3, 2009 at 7:00 PM  
Blogger Jay said...

Fuck the haters, support fingerboarding.

September 3, 2009 at 8:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks a lot Tim you got no clue how worried i was before reading this cause i ordered 2 sets of brr trucks and set of big daddyz and blue winklers but now!!!no more worries I just cant wait to get them ...

and about nut glue where can I get that?cause I've tried superglue before and it messed up my bearings so...?

thanks again Tim

September 3, 2009 at 9:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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September 3, 2009 at 9:24 PM  
Blogger thomas hansen said...

Anonymous = (almost every time) haters with no arguements.

But it is weekend now, so how could i care less??

:-D

September 4, 2009 at 12:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is why you never get a real critique of your product.

September 4, 2009 at 12:58 AM  
Blogger thomas hansen said...

@ anonymous: you are NOT well-informed.

there are a lot of independent and "fair" reviews on fingerboard-webpages around the world, showing peoples honest view on the trucks with both positive and negative aspects.

I am sorry to say this but there is a difference between "criticism" and "haters´ comments"
You have a complete different agenda. Obviously you are not writing with honest intentions, everyone can see that.

Please ask yourself, if you want to be like that forever!? I am sure it can´t feel good at the end of the day to be so negative!
Enjoy Fingerboarding. No one forces you to buy these trucks, but still you want to spoil it for everyone else!

September 4, 2009 at 1:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you are the one with the agenda, I am not making any money ;) Simply saying what is true, I don't believe the hype sorry.

September 4, 2009 at 2:20 AM  
Blogger thomas hansen said...

:-D haha i am swimming in money..... yeah right!

This is cool, it is the first time i am getting accused being in it for the money!!

Thanks for telling me..now i will have my planned gravestone-inscription changed from "nice person" over "used to be cool" to end with "in it for the cash"


You are like an open book... it amouses us! Thanks!

September 4, 2009 at 2:39 AM  
Anonymous hussam said...

where can i get nut glue?cause i've tried superglue and it messed up my bearings!!!

thanks again tim

September 4, 2009 at 4:19 AM  
Blogger thomas hansen said...

Try your local DIY market!

September 4, 2009 at 5:52 AM  
Blogger tim alexiel said...

hardware store bro

September 4, 2009 at 10:01 AM  
Anonymous Hussam said...

I hope I find nut glue cause finding stuff here in saudi arabia is kinda hard !!

September 4, 2009 at 1:47 PM  
Anonymous Hussam said...

I hope I find nut glue cause finding stuff here in saudi arabia is kinda hard !!

September 4, 2009 at 1:47 PM  

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