19 March 2009

Flatface DVD Dillema

I am sure many of you are aware that the Flatface DVD has been released to the public! So far it's been a big success, however there have been a few instances in which people are trying to undermine the original intentions of the DVD. The reason why we made a DVD is to provide the people who choose to buy the DVD with the highest quality of fingerboard video that we could possibly produce. The riders, myself included, put in hours of filming and editing over a year to make sure the parts were the best we could possibly bring. Mike also put in his own money to get this DVD produced professionally.

A few individuals have decided to rip the DVD and post a torrent as well as post some of the parts on YouTube. There are many people split on the issue and here are the reasons I have seen so far of people who think its fine to upload the parts for free:

- Why should I pay $15 for something I can get for free
- Mike is making a lot of money off the DVD's so it's fine if I want to watch for free
- Mike should share the money with his riders
- The riders gave permission to upload there parts

If $15 is too much for you to shell out for fingerboarding, I completely understand. It is your own opinion. But don't undermine the whole intention of the Flatface team. I have over 50 videos of fingerboarding of me on my own Youtube account. So do a lot of other Flatface riders. If you want to watch some free fingerboard videos, watch those videos until your heart is content. We encourage you to watch that footage all you want for free :D

Also, where do you think the money that Mike is getting from the DVD's is going to go? Right back into the company to provide the scene with better fingerboard products and to sponsor more fingerboarding events. Mike has sent countless sponsor packages to different events to help the community. Also, Mike has done a lot to provide the fingerboard scene with the highest quality products possible. I think many people take the quality of products in the fingerboard scene for granted. Without Mike, the American fingerboard scene would be nothing like it is today.

For those of you are using the excuse that Mike should provide the riders with a cut of the DVD money. Also, I'm there are a small number of Flatface riders who don't care that their DVD part has been uploaded on YouTube. I can see why they would want to share the part that they spent so much time and effort to perfect with as many people as possible. However, this is a bad precedent to set. First, Mike provides his riders with numerous sponsor packages in exchange that the riders represent Flatface. In exchange for the countless free products we have received, Mike asked us to film a part for the company video. This is how a sponsorship should work. A relationship between a sponsor and a team rider should be a mutual give-and-take, rather than the riders just taking and taking.

Second, the profit from the DVD is not as big as you might think it is after covering the variable and fixed costs of producing the DVD and the DVD cover professionally. Furthermore, spread the profit over about thirty people, and you can see how insignificant the change would be. Instead, Mike provided every team rider with a free copy of a DVD, and some people received a set of wheels, I think.

Should some random kid get all the credit for my Flatface video part by uploading it to YouTube? I won't let it happen. Especially a kid who deletes every one of my posts when I try to provide him with reasons why he shouldn't upload the parts in a civil manner. Try to delete this buddy.



Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for your support. This loser deleted most of my comments where I gave him many valid reasons why what he's doing is immoral. All Flatface team members put in a lot of effort into this video and got compensated for their input. Why would anyone want to do this to Mike after all he has done for the FB scene??

March 19, 2009 at 6:18 PM  
Anonymous Matt said...

I like fingerboarding.

March 19, 2009 at 9:02 PM  
Blogger Nikola Yanev said...

This was expected. They are doing this with every single movie on DVD, and not only the Fingerboard movies.
Dude this can't be avoid.

March 20, 2009 at 12:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just wow. This N00BLET gets all the credit and you guys on Flatface are the ones who worked so hard and put so much effort into this. Mike needs the money from DVD and other products to make Flatface Fingerboards even bigger. Everyone is like "$15 is half price of a Berlinwood!"Why would I pay that?"I'd rather watch for free!" If people can buy Berlinwoods,Fingas,and BoardKennels,then why can't they pull $15 out of their wallet? Jeez.

March 20, 2009 at 3:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please, all, FLAG these vids on youtube, as acopyright infringement, spam, or whatever you can, maybe they'll shut him down.

March 20, 2009 at 5:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, Youtube is taking off any video with copy written music on it, so it shouldn't be long before it's off Youtube anyways. Then just hope no one sues for their music/graphics/anything they can see being used in a made for profit DVD. (And don't say it won't, because people have been sued for the last 5-8 years now). Check the laws my friend. Unless you have NEVER once downloaded a video, software or song, we can't go pointing the fingers at who is immoral.
Besides, you can get the video taken off Youtube with no problem. Just let Mike report.

March 20, 2009 at 2:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey we won!! All the vids are disabled!!

Thank you for your support all.

Eric S.

March 20, 2009 at 4:15 PM  
Anonymous Drama said...

yes it can and lol Matt's like "I like fingerboarding" haha =]

March 21, 2009 at 3:02 PM  
Anonymous Bakerbum said...

Dude. I agree one hundred percent. Professional fingerboarders are basically kids having fun. But, you gotta support them if you're a fan.

March 23, 2009 at 3:19 PM  
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